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Thursday, 03 December 2009
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O Christmas tree O Christmas tree
Here is the first post I am writing, in an attempt to defeat the most common misconceptions and arguments against Christmas. One of the most common arguments that I have came across, is the idea that Jeremiah 10, forbids or rather talks about Christmas trees. Let's look at Jeremiah 10, and see what we can find shall we? I know I usually use the ESV, but I am going to use the KJV, this time, because that is the translation used in the arguments against Christmas.
Jeremiah 10:1-7
1Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
6Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O LORD; thou art great, and thy name is great in might.
7Who would not fear thee, O King of nations? for to thee doth it appertain: forasmuch as among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their kingdoms, there is none like unto thee.
Now at first glance, this might look like a Christmas tree, with all the talk about silver and gold. However, is it really talking about a Christmas tree? or for that matter, a tree of any type? Let's disect a few of the verses and see if we can find out. Starting with verse 2
"Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them."
The first thing we have to pay attention to is always context. If verse 4 talks about Christmas trees, then verse 2 must also talk about Christmas trees, unless there is some sort of transition that would point us to a subject change. So look at verse 2, does it apply to Christmas trees? Do people who have Christmas trees, pay attention to signs in Heaven? Do signs of Heaven have anything to do with Christmas trees and the practice of having one? My answer to all of the above is no. Let's continue to verse 3.
"For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe."
Now we are getting warm right? surely this is the start of the talk on Christmas trees. But let's move on to verse 4 and see if we are continuing on the possible Christmas tree talk. Verse 4 is next
"They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not."
getting warmer right? that sounds like a christmas tree doesn't it? So far we have verses 3 and 4 giving a slight chance of describing Christmas tree, will the trend continue? Before we go to verse 5, is there anything in 3 and 4 that gives us the idea that he is changing topics? if not, then verse 5 must be talking about the same thing as 3 and 4 right? here is verse 5.
"They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
Wait a minute, something is wrong, when was the last time a Christmas tree talked? Verse 5 says it is speaks not, why is he talking about speaking, if we are talking about trees? The only time I know that a Christmas tree talks, is when you have too much spiked egg nog. We don't usually think or believe or expect our Christmas tree to talk. This investigation is starting to get weird. The very next few words, makes it even weirder. because we are now carrying our christmas tre, because it cannot go. I am assuming, that Jeremiah means on it's own. When was the last time you expected your Christmas tree to walk? When was the last time you carried your Christmas tree because it could not go?
Finally the last part of 5, makes this whole investigation really weird. Because now Jeremiah has entered the realm of the movies on Sci Fi channel. He is talking about not being afraid of this Christmas tree because it cannot do evil, nor can it do good. Have you ever been afraid of your Christmas tree doing evil? have you expected it to do good? So, for Jeremiah to be talking about Christmas tree, it would be a Christmas tree that is carried about because it cannot walk, it can't talk, and is not to be afraid of, because it can't do evil?
Can anyone say DUH!!!! I have never expected a christmas tree to walk, talk, or kill me in my sleep with a knife from the kitchen. It makes no sense whatsoever for Jeremiah to be discussing these things because these are not things that Christmas trees are expected to do.
What makes more sense, is for Jeremiah to be discussing idols. idols are supposed to be gods, gods are expected to walk, talk, and do evil or good. Christmas trees are not. the context of Jeremiah 10, makes no sense if these verses are Christmas trees.
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So if Jeremiah 10, does not forbid Christmas trees, are they Biblical?
I think they are useless, they don't really add anything to the celebration of Jesus' birth. I mean if Christmas is supposed to be about the birth of Jesus, Christmas trees, add nothing, more than looking nice. If you want something to put your gifts on or under, try a nice table, or manger scene. The only logical argument against Christmas trees I have heard, is that Christmas trees are bad stewardship of resources. They are not a requirement to celebrate the birth of Christ, but we chop them down, put them in our house, and after we killed a good tree, we toss it in the trash and get a new one next year. The point is what?
I do not believe the Bible forbids them, but I do not believe they are promoted by the Bible, or needed in order to celebrate Jesus, they are purely for show. Do we really need to kill a tree, for show?
Monday, 30 November 2009
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Merry pagan sun worship day
Actually the title was just an attempt to get more people to come to the site. I don't know if you have seen my new addition to my site, but it is right under the banner for my half.com and amazon stores. It is one sentence, designed to tell people that I agree with Christmas. I grew up, in a church that for the most part, considered christmas to be pagan, I have heard all the arguments, and I disagree with each of them. Every year I write a post that defends Christmas. Mainly because it pains me to see Christians, removing Christ from Christmas, because of actions taken by non Christians close to two thousand years ago.
We defend Christianity, from people using the crusades as a reason not to be a Christian, but Christmas is accused of being pagan, and we write blogs accusing Christians of sun god worship. I was told by one "Christian" a couple of years ago, that it mattered not how I celebrated Christmas, or how many church services I went to on Christmas, everything I did on that day was pagan, because Christmas is a pagan holiday.
I find that view, to be very sad. How can anyone sit there, and tell someone they are praying to a pagan sun god, because it is the 25th of December, even though the person is sitting in a Church, praying to God? Is there something about the 25th, that somehow diverts prayers away from an all powerful God, and instead sends them to someone that doesn't exist?
I have decided, to defend Christmas a little bit differently, this year, instead of attempting to explain why Christmas is not pagan, I am going to take a look at some of the arguments against it, and do one post per argument. Maybe if we can explain why the arguments against Christmas do not hold water, then in a round about way, we can show the validity of Christmas.
What argument against Christmas should I start with? Do you celebrate Christmas?
Saturday, 28 November 2009
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The day after
As far back as I can remember, the day after, or a couple days after thanksgiving, my mom always made turkey soup, using the leftover bones and such from the thanksgiving meal.
Now I love most soup, chicken noodle is my favorite, but turkey soup is not all that bad either. Tomato soup with milkand some pasta is not bad either. Some soups that I don't like are split pea, and ministrone. I don't like ministrone mainly because my mom made it with garbonzo beans and I am not fond of them. Nine bean soup is another soup from my childhood that I wouldn't mind forgetting. It is exactly as it sounds, a soup with nine different types of beans in it. It kinda had this dark feel to it, I can remember my mom reading the Lord Of The Rings series to us, while we ate it, and thinking that such a dark soup needed a dark book like The Two Towers to go with it.
But enough about soup, what do you do with your turkey leftovers?
Wednesday, 25 November 2009
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What or who do you obey?
In May of '99 the retail building, that the church I attend was meeting in, caught on fire and burned to the ground. We built an "educational" building for our church run school in 2001, and started working with the county to build a much bigger sanctuary. After 8 years of going back and forth, we finally got permission to start building. One of the things we had to agree to do, in order to get our permits, was to agree to build a sidewalk, rain drainage, and curb, near the church.
To accomplish this, we had to block off one lane of the major road, that runs near the church, and one lane of the much less traveled road that runs on the other side of the church. So I have volunteered a couple times, to direct traffic, as I have no expeirence in doing such a thing, I am directing traffic on the less raveled road. Friday when I did this, I had a few angry drivers that were upset when I had to flip the side over to stop and tell them to wait, so we could let other cars go. But today, I was standing, holding the sign, displaying "slow" as I waved the orange flag towards the lane that I needed the car to go down. When I first started, I was shown how to hold and use the flag, and so I had been using it the way I was told, and 99.9% of the drivers knew what I was asking them to do, which was drive down the left hand lane or the "on coming " traffic lane, so that we could do the work that was needed on the right lane. But this one lady, driving in one of those old "boat" cars, if you are familiar with that term, saw the slow sign, and me waving her towards the right lane, we made eye contact, so I know she saw me, right before she drove straight down the right lane, causing one of our workers to jump out of the way.
I have no idea, where the confusion took place, maybe she decided she knew better than I did, and was just not going into the "on coming" traffic lane. But her actions, could have been dangerous, if our worker did not jump out of the way, or if the bobcat that was picking up gravel to dump, backed into her car, as it was not supposed to be there.
As I stood there the rest of my shift, I was thinking, about how often do we do that with God? How often as people, do we make eye contact with God, as He is waving us down the narrow path, and we just decide to gun our motor and go down the wide path instead.
Who knows, maybe for some of us, we are reading the wrong sign. Maybe for some of us, we see God holding the "stop" sign, and we see someone else holding a slow sign, and decide to obey that sign instead of the one that God is holding.
How do we know that we are reading the right sign? The Bible in 2 Timothy 3:16 says that scripture is all scripture is profitable for correction, for reproof, for teaching, and for training in righteousness. Some translations says that scripture is God Breathed. meaning God inspired and breathed the words into the minds of the writers of scripture. Nowhere, in the Bible, does it say that tradition, or habit is God Breathed. Only the Bible is said to be God Breathed. Now, if God wanted to come down and tell me to do something, there is a strong chance that I will do it. Unless of course it directly contradicts the Bible, if it does, then I may have to wonder if it was really God telling me to do it.
Paul, in Acts 17 goes to the area of the Bereans, after leaving Thessalonica. He preaches the gospel, and they react by running to the scriptures available to them and making sure that what Paul is saying is real. For this action the are commended by Paul.
This is how we can tell that we are on the right path, and paying attention to the right road signs. If we want to do something, or someone is telling us a doctrine or a belief, we need to run to the Bible and check it out. If it is not in the Bible, then we have no basis to belief it.
What if it just sounds good or right? The Bible says that there is a way that seems right to a man, it leads to death. Ever hear the phrase,"sounds too good to be true"? Just because it sounds good, does not make it right or wrong, we have to go to God in prayer, and read His God Breathed word to make sure that what we believe or heard is in there.
Is the Bible, the one road sign that we need to listen and follow, or are there other road signs that we can read and stay on the narrow road?
Monday, 23 November 2009
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what is that?
Yesterday was the annual Thanksgiving Dinner at the Church I go to. I was in the hallway talking to a young lady who attends the church when she can. The dinner part of the night was over, and the church had started to sing hymns, One of which was Come Thou Font of Every Blessing. One of the kids that I help teach in Sunday School, walks up to me in the hallway and interrupts me, asking how to spell the word Nebuchadnezzar. Which might seem like an odd qeustion, but we have been in the book of Daniel for the past 3 or 4 weeks, so I didn't think it was all that strange. Deciding to be difficult with him and make him use his brain, I told him to look up the spelling in the Book of daniel. He said okay, and that he was wondering, on the spelling, because it is mentioned in that song, he is now pointing inside the sanctuary where the words to "Come Thou font Of Every Blessing" are projected onto the screen, the Church was about to sing Verse 2 which reads as follows
Here I raise my Ebenezer
Hither by Thy help I come
And I hope by Thy good pleasure
Safely to arrive at home
Jesus sought me when a stranger
Wandering from the fold of God
He to rescue me from danger
Interposed His precious bloodI told him that the word was Ebenezer, not Nebuchadnezzar. He said okay, and started to leave. I asked him if he wanted to know what Ebenezer meant. He turned around and said sure.
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Many times in some of our hymns, we sing words that we may not actually agree with. I was in a discussion group of fellow Southern Baptists and some of them were 5 point Calvinists. They refused to sing the hymn "To God Be The Glory" because of the line "Who yielded His life an atonement for sin, And opened the life gate that all may go in." They objected to it, because it seemed not to promote the doctrine of "limited Atonement" that is held by Calvinists. Now, I have never been mistaken for a Calvinist, and I see nothing wrong with that line. But I realized that I myself had sung that song, and had never thought of it as disagreeing with Limited Atonement.
The Hymn "A Mighty Fortress Is Our God" contains the lines
"Dost ask who that may be? Christ Jesus, it is He;
Lord Sabaoth, His Name, from age to age the same,
And He must win the battle."I have actually been told by more than one person, that the Lord Sabaoth, title in that song means "Lord Sabbath" or Lord Of The Sabbath" It doesn't by the way, but I bet that if you asked 15 people in your church, they wouldn't know the real meaning of the word.
Why do we blindly sing the words of the song, in an attempt to praise God, when we don't know what they mean. Can you really praise someone, when you have not a clue as to what you are saying? Let's go back to Come Thou Font Of Every Blessing,
I gave the kid the answer tonight, but I am not going to be so easy on my readers. Can anyone, reading this, provide the answer to what does the word "Ebenezer" mean? Bonus points if you can also give the meaning of "Lord Sabaoth"
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